Sunday, January 27, 2013

Teaching School Texts by txt - original article


Teaching school texts by txt

Teachers should relax about pupils' mobile phones – they can boost standards and liven up the lesson if used imaginatively

It appears lots of teachers like me are up in arms about pupils using mobile phones in the classroom. Teaching unions are terrified that if schools don't ban them absolutely, chaos will ensue: the internet will become awash with pictures of teachers' cleavages and embarrassing slip-ups, pupils will never listen to anything being taught because they're too busy texting and bullying and abuse will increase exponentially.
To a certain extent this may be true, but it doesn't get away from the fact that mobile phones are here to stay and are increasingly becoming a vital part of our modern world. As teachers we have a duty to show children that these pieces of technology are not taboo items – that they are not as harmful as cigarettes and heroin – and that they can have a very real role in the classroom.
Indeed some of the best lessons I have taken have been when I've asked pupils to text questions about the set texts we've been studying to each other. After that, they've texted replies to each other. I even managed to make Thomas Hardy interesting by doing this: the pupils interrogated the text and provided suitable answers for each other, summarising the key points of the novel in text speak. The lesson was fun and very memorable; far better than asking them to write a summary.
A recent survey conducted by Nottingham University has shown thatmobile phones can really help boost standards in the classroom if they are used wisely and imaginatively. Pupils can Bluetooth their work to each other, set deadlines on the digital diaries, research issues on the web, take videos of teachers explaining key points. Most significantly for me, the new breed of smartphones, which have big screens and memories, can hold "e-books" and pupils can carry vital English textbooks that are out of copyright such as the aforementioned Hardy. Some pupils have even put their exercise books on their phones, uploading them to the internet to save them. Surely, the problem of forgetting text and exercise books will become a thing of the past if these smart phones become a staple of the modern school?
I feel that they could really help boost standards if they are used properly in the classroom, but they are banned in most schools. Obviously, firm boundaries need to be set when they are used: they should be about learning, not mucking around or bullying. Above all, the phones should be visible to the teacher so that they can see what's going on. At the moment, in lots of classrooms, mobile phones are used secretly – because they're banned – and this can cause more problems than it solves. Too much teacher time is taken up with confiscating them or arguing about whether they've been used or not. I've noticed pupils are now lightning quick about making their mobile phone disappear into their sleeves and pockets: some even take pride in making them vanish into thin air and you wonder whether you've seen them.
It's time for the teaching profession to enter the 21st century and embrace mobile phones as tools for learning, not agents of destruction.

78 comments:

  1. Students of the Ter L1 and Ter L2 LVA are requested to comment on this article and / or the comments posted by other users.
    Their comment should include their opinion about the idea of teaching school texts by txt, making cell phones part of school stationery, or the use of cell phones as described by Francis Gilbert. Their opinion has to be completed with an argued justification.
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    The comments shouldn't be excessively long, but should state the argument as concisely and clearly as possible.

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    1. Just imagine (Mr. Baudin) gives some exercise where, us pupils, we should make a summaray from the famous book of Shakespeare Romeo & Juliet. You read this review and seem to be inspired by the method of Guilbert learn by sms and twitter.You realize, very very quickly that, most of the copies of your students wrote a strange language appears. What is it? You are trying to decrypt this message when you suddlenly realize that it is the result of the Guilbert's methond. “ Roméo & Juliet it’s abt a luv of 2 people @ 2 powerful famile aka the Capulet & Montagu. They want2b 2gether asap, they can't live W/O them & the 8 @ they family. They where afraid it bcom a NES bcuz ltns they luv each other & they died.” (In order words Roméo and Juliet it's about a love of two people from two powerful family also know as the Capulet ans the Montagu.They wanted to be together as soon as possible, they can't live without the and the hate of they family. They where afraid it become a never ending story because long time no see they love each other ans they died. )
      Seriously, this is what Gilbert wants, demystified language, impoverish its richness that is unique to Shakespeare? I do not see how this method can boost the ability of a student, I think it make most lazy, doesn't allows him to improve his skills.
      Consider again the example of kindergarten classes who have gives an Ipad. Do you think how will learn to write, read without the correction online? No!
      We live in an era when the phone is important, but it should not take the place of the "classical pathway that is to take a pen and learn to write manually. The screens are already an important part of our lives that causes most of the time problems of view, if we still use 6 hours by day physically we couldn't bear it, our fingers would have cramp.
      Moreover I don't think technology is the only way to awake students of exciting lessons that involve EVERY student by adding a touch of modernity can enable students to get involved. It is the teacher to instill the joy of learning classical texts to teenagers who have somes prejudices that they are boring.
      In conclusion the idea of ​​learning by text messages can only have negative points because it thank the student more lazy, and therefore teacher. The old methods are best if they are well learned.
      KeurtBe+ing

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    2. Keurtsing, my dear, I just couldn't find your comment although it was one of the last to be posted tonight and reviewed all the settings of the blog to find it. Now I know... you just wanted your post to be at the top of them all :-p

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  2. I don't think the cellphone is very usefull in class, because all that we do with it it's have fun. We don't really want to use it properly in the way that teacher wants to.
    If you let us use it in class all we're going to do is talk per text messages with our friends...
    Don't let us use it, don't let us destroy our eyes, fingers, and neck.

    And how did our parents without all these things ?

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    1. Agree!

      I would add to this, that as students, we perfectly know that we certainly won't use our cellphones to work. Our mobile phones are personnal! Moreover, if we start using new technology in class, there won't be no limits between pleasure and work.. Add to all of this that cellphones are the less convenient appliances to work with, as the screen are small, and the memory limited.
      Also, how would the pupils without smartphones do?

      Nevertheless, I agree with Gilbert: a lesson made with cellphones can be memorable. Using cellphones might be an original way to make a lesson more lively, but only if we use it once in a while! (Such as Mr Baudin did with his outside lessons). Finally, I think we should avoid using cellphones for lessons as history or literature, as they are serious subjects and students might not get the key points of the lessons..

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    2. Point taken, Clara, but your last argument is a bit off the point, even a bit contradictory: it is precisely because students might miss the key points in history or literature that they might be allowed to used their cell phones, say, to record the teachers' explanations - not necessarily in video. Besides, be careful what you call "serious" subjects, your other teacher might take it wrongly - too late, I already did! ^^

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  3. Sultan 93 banlieue saleJanuary 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Let us use our cellphones in class, it is an usefull tool.
    We can search words for languages skills, use it as a calculator in math, look at what did the first president of U.S.A , how much can see a fly, or many things like these on the heat of the moment.
    And ask questions to the teacher very quickly.

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    1. About that last point, do you mean that cell phones should even replace oral interaction between teachers and pupils...?

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  4. Namur Manon-Océane.January 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    At the beginning,I was mitigated,because I was thinking of the risks on the health, or of the degradation of the language, but I also think about the well-done of this method, because for some pupils who doesn't like to write or things like that it can be useful.
    Although, by rethinking about this method, I think that it wouldn't be a good idea due to the soaring of new technology, pupils are already glued to there screen, and if you encourage them, it would be a new dumb generation.
    Also, if screen and more specifically mobil phone are used in class even if you have the possibility of seeing the pupils' screen, you can't watch twenty screens in the same time so pupils can be on social network or texting there friends.
    Moreover, if pupils already write messages by the text messages form, they're going to forget all the spelling's rules and for their futur life it can be a huge problem because you just can't find a job and writting your cv like that.
    To conclude, I think this method would be good just when you have four pupils in front of you, and if it's not everyday but just once, like that. Finally, can you imagine the reaction of the pupils' parents if you tell them :"My kid needs a cell-phone to learn history (or other things) in class."

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  5. First, I have to let you know that my point of view about using cell phone in class was mitigated at the beginning. Now, having thought about it, my opinion is negative.
    Indeed, I disagree with Mr Francis Gilbert's justifications which are in general off the target like the one on cells phones being not as dangerous as the drugs. He tries hard to persuade us to share his opinion, but unfortunately for him he totally fails... One of his arguments is nearly pathetic : about teachers keeping CONSTANTLY an eye on cell phones. It's just impossible. It's like telling teachers to keep an eye on each children without shrinking. Some moments may slip through the teachers' fingers like a pupil abusing, insulting an other one through text speak... Besides, I think Kevin CAHAY is right, children would spend their time texting and playing with their phone instead of paying attention in class... I think we should stand in a teacher's shoes : it would be out of control for us to keep an eye on EACH phone.

    Apart from these limits, I still agree with some of Francis Gilbert's arguments : cell phones and technology in general, are useful, we can't deny it. They are part of our everyday life : TV, internet... Besides, I also approve of the argument about using technology in class : Nowadays, some school are using "virtual" screen instead of blackboards, I will recommend this mehod instead of Gilbert's one. It can arouse the students' attention, and for sure make the class more efficient.

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  7. It looks like y'all have the same opinion, rather boring

    I think that this method's success depends the most on the pupils using it, it's obvious that every student is not able not to succumb to the temptation to use the phone for fun

    So why not trying Gilbert's method before we can judge it??? :)))

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  8. Btw I'd lyk 2 add sumfin:

    Beyond the efficiency or the inefficiency I think that this method is likely to create discriminations, unless the academy would have the goodness to give every pupil a smartphone or any iThing ;)))

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  9. I think Francis Gilbert highlights a good question, but does not give the right answer. With his new methods, he tries to insert the concrete reality in theory. However, he only reduces education, first of all based on human transmission, to the use of gadgets… But a lesson is not made to distract students!

    Besides, it is precisely because of the development of new technologies that the limits are valuable in a world in search of a new identity… For me, school is something reassuring. It is a landmark that must be preserved from all facebook, twitter or “txt speak”. School is in the long term. It is, by definition, the opposite of the expression "on the spur of the moment", which Francis Gilbert wants to insert in his teaching method by using mobile phones! Moreover, the text speak is made to go fast. Go fast and forget to think. Is this really what a teacher expects from a student?

    Thus and especially as a professor of literature, Francis Gilbert is supposed to love to sensitize students to the weight of each word, its value, its beauty and history… All that it is impossible to do with the method he advocates!

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  10. Dos Santos Muratyan AnaïsJanuary 31, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I think that let the pupils use the technology for the school is a bad idea for example, we would be trying to write "Hakuna Matata" or other "Wazapi". Even if it’s very funny, it’s not serious..
    Furthermore, Sultan, if we use the technology to think, we couldn’t make anything alone!
    Even if I think that the pupils could overflow, Francis Gilbert had a good idea: the pupil’s attention will grow on! But it can work at the beginning.. Except that once the surprise and the interest decreased, the pupils will be trying to send a message, surf on the Internet...
    The teachers could always try some new way to have the pupil’s attention, they will always fall because we are immature and we have a limited attention.
    Moreover, some students couldn’t have the money to buy a smart phone.

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    1. I'm all for honesty, it destroys the real way of meaning of our beautiful language.
      But we don't need non education (Thanks pink floyd) with these cellphones, we need teachers (don't let us alone)

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    2. I think there's a risk of dependance on the screens, as every new devices... Can you imagine us back to the ink pens now that we have ball-point pens? According to me the problem is that we can't completely rely on the new technologies, risks of loss of files, crashes etc... So if we can't do without it, the loss would be even more troublesome!
      Just saying

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  11. Ok so, if we accept using cells phones in class, why do we not accept computers in class? Why not make things in big! And it's much convinient to keep lessons, searching for something.. but this method have inconvienients too!
    I think pupils use and like using cells phones in class because it's prohibited (the pupil is a rebel and don't like rules HAHAHA!..) and yes maybe it can be convinient for searching a lot of things, but childrens using cells phones to texting, playing, watching movies/series, showing photos like "me in bikini on the beach" (it's so interesting omygod..!) to their class neighbor and sometimes listening music thanks to their headphones. I think that thanks to cells phones we can research issues on the web is not a good pretext because we can research all of we want outside of schools! But as Johanna Trottain said, using "virtual" screen instead of boards is a good method to catch the attention of pupils to make a link with pixel world and the world not pixelate.

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  12. At the beginning, I agreed with Francis Gilbert's method. Indeed, he lives on his time and tries to look for a new way of teaching. It could make the lesson more lively and the pupils could be more interested. Anyway, even if cell phones are forbbiden at school, puplis use them secretly.
    But then, I thought about the health. It could be dangerous because, nowadays, children spend all their free time glued to a screen (computers, TV and cell phones) and they can contract many problems like eyes problems and become short-sighted.
    To conclued, I think Francis Gilbert's idea is a good one but has its limits. Maybe it could be used occasionally and in small groups.
    Ingrid Rizk

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  13. first it is important to highlight the fact that mobile phones are part of our modern world . Indeed our world focuses on new technology, consequently using mobile phones is the better way to inogurate the development of new technologies, especially smart phones. Besides teaching through mobile phones can allay pupils' interest . By using text message to study fundamental text like Shakespear's literature, the teacher would be wise to use something which contributes to the improvement of pupils' results because it is undeniable that the majority thinks shakespeare is boring so it is an ingenious idea.

    Nevertheless the most important is the fact that pupils have to understand and analyse literature . Despite the difficulty, the language richness i think is important like Kevin mentioned.Teaching text through text messages would alter and adulterate the original language. By making text more understandable for pupils the teacher would simplify the language and hence pupils can't receive totally the real message.
    Finally it is wisier to abandon the idea of using mobile phones in class for the reason that by trying to improve pupils' level the teacher reduce their skills to simple words.
    Above all mobile phones shouldn't be allowed because instead of "using it imaginetively" it is sure that people are not masts enough to use cell phones wisely without making fun of teachers or making fun of themselves. it would be naive to think of it. By Giving some autonomy by allowing smart phones, the teacher will open a door to violence,taunts ...
    Muanda Gaetan

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  14. What a great debate mr.Gilberts has started ! Indeed his arguments are not senseless and using this new technology will make us fit in our time. It will also give more liberty and autonomy to our students.

    But mr.Gilberts beats around the bush when he has to answer to the webusers' questions. Instead of answering directly he uses byways. Indeed which students in 2009 or 2013 will use bluetooth ? Or will take photos of teachers to put them on the web ? No one. Mr.Gilberts doesn't seize the students'actual worries. Nowadays they just want to text their friends and stay in contact with them through cellphones or social networks. In this way mr.Gilberts answers are off the target.

    But if he can't well defend his position, that not means that this subject isn't interesting! It's the other way around! Personally, if i had to argue about this topic, i would say that using cellphones in class will be dangerous. Why ? Because they will have too many temptations to not follow the teacher's lesson. Texting with our friends is one hundred per cent better and cooler than follow a boring lesson. That's why the using of cellphones has to be forbidden during the class time. There is a time for fun and a time to study. And class time belongs to the last.

    Finally, in the U.S.A some students in some schools use already some touchpads, "Ipads", in class. And everyone has to admitt that this method increase their results. So my question, always considering my last positions about this subject, is : Can this method fits into our european way of teaching ? Don't hesitate to reply and react about my post ! I will enjoy to respond on your reactions !

    Thanks H.K

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    1. If it works in the USA there's no reason it wouldn't work in Europe, anyway we're yet much "americanized" and this trend is on the path to grow...
      But don't you think that once we'll have taken up this method, we'll need more new and efficient devices that will conduct to the total replacement of the teachers by technologies?
      That's the question, I'm worried for the future of humans relations

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    2. FYI: the Guardian is a British daily... :)

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  15. It's a good idea but it's too much modern for the moment to use cell phone in class. But we can use technology like electronic boads or internet... Thanks to its, the teachers can explain the lessons to pupils. Moreover mobile phones become dangerous when they are used too long, such as during a time course. From my point of view that is why Francis Gilbert's idea is bad.
    However,it would be a good idea only when cars can fly =P

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    1. I don't know what spends with the hour but I didn't publish the message at 5 am in the morning, I sleep at the present time if I.

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    2. Haha!! Are U lying to us Vic ?

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    3. of course no =D

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  16. For me using cellphone in class don't incite pupils to teach themselves and to work of advantage but rather to amuse. I don't think that pupils are going to make for what the professors asks them but I think that they are going to take advantage of it on the contrary to go on social networks for example or simply text them friends. Electronic will never replace apprenticeship through books.

    Snow White ♥

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  17. I think taht using cell-phones in class is a bad idea because when pupils will use their phones they will automatically discuss or spend text messages so they wouldn't listen to the teacher anymore whereas what he has to say is very important in as much as he is here to teach us new things.Morever, if pupils use cell-phones in class they wouldn't do anything by themselves because in the cell-phone there is a calculator, internet..., all that things which do that nowadays think by ourselves is a test, that's why i would like to finish by saying:"To learn something, a good school book is better than a cell-phone!"

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  18. Hi every1 :)!!! I see tht opinions R very ambivalent! Do U want to know mine?

    I AM AGAINST! Oh my god, this is an abomination. By reading this article I immediately taught a negative opinion of these methods. We, teachers, must show the example. It is not necessary especially that the mobile phone becomes the extension of the brain. In this case why do not we graft this one in the hand?

    I excuse myself to be also blocked on my opinion, but I have only objections there. The electronic objects are not always reliable. Do you really think that a cell phone will have autonomy raised enough to hold all a day? And how to make if students do not have any more tools to note their lessons?

    Moreover, the problem becomes more worrying when students use it to cheat. Obviously if you decide to work with this object, you do not have to wait from them that they will not used it for cheating during the exams. The paradox with these Smartphones, it is that they can also be genuine tools. In the New York schools, some teachers integrated cell phones in their classes. It is an interesting track, but I do not think that it is the best solution. Indeed it can cause sociocultural and financial problems, any family not having the means to pay a smartphone to his/her children.

    Furthermore, students can use this means to try to make another thing instead of working. In this case why do not we work at distance? The mobile phone is a drug. Once again I think that the consequences are obvious in class: quick demobilization facing the effort to do, difficulties to do the links between the knowledge or the experiences in class, instability of the attention, concentration difficulties, lack of interest for the abstracted knowledge (nonrelated to the daily newspaper of the young person) . My list is long!
    They put their own capacities to reflect in danger.

    They cannot see anymore, hear, breathe and touch the world by the same manner, when they will have the lowered eyes all the day, towards the making childishing messages.

    Do I have to speak to you about the physical consequences on the teenager?
    1. osteoarthritides of the inch
    2. Incidences on the sight of these small screens surbrillant
    3. Problems of cervicals
    The mobile phone will lead to an atrophy of the five senses!

    According to me, cell phones should be forbidden . And I dare to hope that, if it exists a place where one can still require not to be invaded by these devices, it should be in the classroom.

    Thanks, Sara

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    1. Do you believe to play a part theatrical or what? Hey Miss calms you one does not ask you to write a Novel :p I love you nevertheless Princesse Sara.
      PS: I always expect my cuckoos ......

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  19. I will add that I agree with the fact that english is a living language but we must not change it into text speak language otherwise we deplete our sumptuous language.

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  20. English== >
    Although the means of communication are the future and it would be a new way of teaching. The class would be renewed and updated as Gilbert writes " cell phones are part of everyday life". However this new method also presents many defects: indeed the most gifted pupil in the subject will be the most requested what would increase the individualism. Furthermore, all the persons can not take advantage of given answers, they can not indeed share them to the whole class. It raises a new question which is if the answers would be always right ? Each can not be checked by the teacher because the answers will be on the spur of the moment sent. That is why I am not convinced by this method plus the consequences on our health which you have alteady highlighted.

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  21. Mr Gilbert has a point when he says that classroom has to be more lively and teachers should not waste their time with cell phones. But seriously, using text language ? Pupils do not know how to write or spell anymore, and he wants to facilitate studies ? Well, this is a great method if we only want illiterate children in few years !
    Furthermore, we can be sure that some pupils will abuse and use their cell phones for no educative reasons. I am pretty sure that if we would use this method, teachers would spend even more time to check if pupils are using their cell phones for the gppd reasons. Tolerating cell phones in class represents a real temptation for pupipls who don not know how to live without their phones, and for sure they will be the first to use this technology for making fun of their teachers (taking pictures, sharing on social networks and between all the students).
    It is necessary to add that more and more children have to wear glasses, and it is a real problem of our geneation, it is a fact ! Spending all their time in front of screens (anyway if it is computer or smart phone) damages their health, especially their eyes and also their backs, obviously it is not healthy to stay in the same position for hours !
    Okay I'm exaggerating a little in reason of children won't end up blind and hunchback like freaks, but you got the idea right ?
    So, I'm clearly againt this method, and if it would be applicated in my school, I would boycott it ! I am pretty sure that I will need my eyes and my back for many years yet !




    Ps: Master Baudin > Chuck Norris

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  22. I’m too old for this sh... stuff !

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  23. I think using cell phones in class is a terrible idea. Terrible because teenagers just want fun with cell phone, they want texting, using facebook, tweeter, always take a victim in their class and persecute him all the year, but they never think, at one moment, that they can learn with cell phone! Imagine a teacher who saying " so today we'll use cellphones to teaching" ahah in the head of pupils " It"s time to texting!!" or "what the F... in the head the teacher, he so sucks that he try to make fun in this class" , so it's stupid to using phones to teach.

    Then i rejoin the point of view of coralie or sara, all the screens will have a serious impact on us! When all the population, because they have used cellephones will leave in wheelchair because of the position that they adopted during all years and they also will become blind, may be we'll can say that this method can't be possible.

    Finally i want to say that the langage will become poor! poor because people don"t know how to write anymore, imagine a book where there are only consonant? or a film which using a modern, texting, langage, you'll grumble no? Here it's the same thing, we grumble in order to protect our heritage linguistic.

    So we need to acting now, to be against this method in order to protect health and the langage, together we can counteract what the use technologies want to impose to us. Impossible doesn't mean impossible.

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  24. I think that the idea of teaching school texts by txt may be useful and interesting because nowadays pupils use more abbreviations. Furthermore teach them how to correctly use the abbreviations could create a new style of written language rather like "verlan" (which is mainly spoken). Finally, even if it denatures language, I think that we must move with the times and experiment with new ideas.

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  25. i would like to add that people will be remorseful when they will understand that these devices are harmful . Besides Sara is right ,how can people and teachers think about using these devices with which pupils can cheat ?It is the real and paradoxical question.

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  26. Yo Net surfers!! I make a point of reacting vis-a-vis the Article of Gilbert.
    I am division completely the of the teachers opinions, insofar as to allow the use of mobile phones in class would be true a madness because not only the high ones do not pay any more attention to the teachers.
    but besides does that, have what will serve the teachers if their work east boycotts by new technologies?
    The use of the mobile phones in class would benefit only with high and not the teachers. For these reasons, I am against this form of teaching. Perhaps Technology facilitates the life to us but could be the source of much failure if one does not put a constraint.

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  27. I agree with Mr.Gilbert, cell phones are used everyday by us, so it's like TV or internet that we use today in class, deflect cell phones in a pedagogical use is something that had to happen and if it is used the right way this method could be very effective.

    Yes, pupils can use cell phones for chating during the class, but it's something obligatory, even without txt some pupils will chat, we don't need it.

    So I think cell phones can be used in class but only with precautions.

    Willen BENBRAHAM

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  28. I think using new technology in class, at a time for us who live with it all the time and everywhere, could be a good idea.

    The problem is to know how we (teachers and pupils) will use cell-phones in class : with which method teachers can return the use of these new technologies interesting for his yard.
    Furthermore, with the web we can search and find all that we need like definition, translation etc but I think it's done to use it at home for studying... The aura room that we have to settle is to know if the relationship between the pupil and his teacher would always be the same ? Because it's sure that pupil will do a centralization around cell-phone and not on the teacher.

    For me it's a negative point of view because no good method was found to allow the use of new technologies so, I don't think whether it's a good idea for study in class at the moment. On the other hand, I think, by a few years, they will found their place in classes.
    Phœbe

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  29. I think that Francis Gilbet's methood is utopia because if pupils have the permission of using mobile phones in class to make the lesseon modre lively, they will be to much dependant on new technolgies and cach many connected diseases to this way of teaching and learning. Besides, new technologies are responsible to make pupils in the ecapacity of concentrating themseves in an other thing than a screen. So, the school is the only place where pupils are oblige to let screens to discover litterature, it's a way to observe beauty of words and the author's style because with text speach spelling is forgotten and many abreviations are emplyed. That's why I think it's important to study many classics, it allow to see differents way of writing in every time. The majority of pupils can write in text speach but many of them don't know a lot about Sheakespeare.

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    But it would be awkward.

    More important, I think Francis Gilbert's idea is a good idea BUT not in every classes: Cellphones are now the biggest lie in class; students are always saying when they are caught on their cellphones "nah you so sily mister teacher I was just checking the hour/something in my pocket/ something in my bag/in my pants" and I think that for example filming a key point would be great for students.

    I think classes would be less "boring" if teachers add something funier, I don't know like introducing the summary of a great play like King Lear in twitter messages, play scene and changing language register, for example, take Zazie dans le metro's language and put it in King Lear's context, or vice versa.

    But I think those kind of things got to be done in high school, not in middle school because there, students are between 11 and 15 and are often immature and fools, they only care about having fun and disobey to their parents or/and the adults ("I'm $o r3belz I'm going to bed @ 22.03 and my parents said 22.00 haha bi**h #swag #yolo #lolilolmdrlol")


    And as I said, this methods shouldn't be used everytime in class, because students got to be prepared for exams, and hey won't pass the exam with their cellphones ahah, this would be cheating and there you got to wait 5 years before passing an exam again and stuff.
    Also, teachers got to know the pupils, do a test before introducing those methods to their class because, as David said, they could mock students and teachers, also they won't know proper language as Gaetan said it too.* (see at the end of the comment)

    as Armony said it,(yeah im quoting people in my class so wut?! >:000' ) computers could be allowed in class. I mean, come on, now every phone has an internet access, nobody would want forever an old nokia phone from ,I don't know ,1998. And with this, pupils could send stupid photos like a picture of a girl in a bikini on the beach or a boy bare feets in the snow, looking empty to impress girl...This could become the attention-who*e's palace. But you'll remark that some website could be blocked (yeah if you try to go on FB in the computer's room in Boulloche you can't (I think) )

    What would be interessting is to got computers or Ipad or eReaders in class, at least one for two but here again, student's need to be respectful for the others. (or student's got to be RICH)

    Huh this a infernal spiral.

    To conclude, I keep my positions about internet inspired summary of plays and books, like the one we saw with king lear (@hiLEARious) but I'm not sure about the "txt" way to learn litterature.

    * Come on do you want to see this on a test sheet? (imagine that a student got to quote Marie Sorderini's discussion with Catherine in Lorenzaccio, I,6 (in french plz))

    KATERIN: Le soleyl komens a bécé. 2 larj bande de proupre travrse le feuyage é la grenouye fé coné ss lé roso sa petit closh de kristale. C 1 cingulir choz ke ttes lé armony (hahaha) du coir ac le brui lointin de cet vile.

    MARI: il é tps 2 rentré; nou tn voil otour 2 tn cou


    Ii' 4am $0 $o0rry mi1ster Baudin sempai-desu x3 th3er3' m1ght b3e al0ot of sp3liing' 3er0or's :'(( I fo0rg0ot h0ow t0 wriit3e teehee.

    (I am sorry for your eyes, all of you)

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  32. At the beginning, I was (like some of us), mitigated. But I'm finally against this Gilbert's method.
    First, I think that, this method which is considered as a "new way of teaching" by Francis Gilbert, can't exist if we have not smartphones of the new breed, with big screens and memories, and this kind of cell phones are expensive ; everyone cannot buy it ! (even if M.Baudin hates the poor aha !) Then, as students, we perfectly know that we're going to use cell phones to chat with our friends, to share on social networks (the bad side of smartphones according to the Gilbert's new way of teaching, don't you think ?) : we are not going to use it in an education's way. So, it's a very good method to spend time texting and never pay attention in class (and pay attention in class is already a hard task, you know !). Moreover, pupils can take compromising pictures of teachers and share them instantly on social networks, for exemple. Consequently, teachers would spend even more time confiscating cell phones in class.
    And, the idea of Bluetooth pupil's work to each other is absurd : nowadays, which people will use Bluetooth ?

    Secondly, like Gilbert's method said "cell phones are part of everyday life", so it's something personal and this precious tool could be a great way for cheating instead of a learning's tool. Furthemore, I think that we already use a lot our cell phones (and probably too much) when we're not in class. Pupils will be excessively dependant on their phones for basic skills like calculating, spelling and writing, and by the way, they will loose their autonomy. For example, we can't turn a text of 1567 words, with a perfect spelling into 27 words and a monstruous spelling ; it destroys the beauty of the language. Indeed, you lose the text richness, the narrative qualities and the author's style.
    I think that cell phones, on the contrary of the Gilbert's point of view, are like a drug. So, in class, it's time for working and not for making fun. I would also notice that spending too much time in front of screens damages our health : you strain your eyes and thumbs.

    Finally, if Gilbert's method would be applicated in my school, I would find this even more strange and I think I would need a lot of time to get used to this surprising method.
    Gilbert's method iz a good fing n it's eazy 2 read , right ?
    (Seriously, I spent ten minutes to type these four abbreviations : so, I'm totally AGAINST).

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    2. Your lovely Cécilia.C obviously !

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  33. First, I wanted to say that this homework is a kind of Gilbert's method because we all are using the new technology to work on this subject. I find it really original and interesting. But it is an obligation to remark that this exercise is an extraordinary way of learning because of his rarity.

    Indeed I think that this kind of working can be a great way to interest children and catch pupil's attention. However this method has to be, in my opinion, as rare as possible to keep its preciosity.

    Finally I would like to highlight the fact that Mr. Gilbert is a great teacher because he is looking for new ideas and new ways to teach without annoying his pupils. This is a man who loves his job.

    Miss Pokémon Allemand

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  34. Using cellphones in class is not a very good idea because that can show the usefulness of the professor. He would be there to supervise the pupils activities but not to make his lesson. All the students will share photos/videos, send text speak or surf in the internet but that will not be interesting and different from what the do at home. The old methods are the best, our parents grew in a strict system and now they have cultures and live well, let the students use cellphones is allowing the main ennemy of the professors. I think, Francis Gilbert thought that a dream can be true. But, we are teenagers, we are young, and we just want to have fun. Lidove

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  35. I think that using cellphones in school is the door for many stupidities (like taking photos of miss Rabaste^^) the old method is the best : write with a pen on a paper Gilbert is a fool
    long live to old school!

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  36. My first thought about Gilbert's method was "yeah,it's fun and a modern way to teach" But now, having thought about it, like many of us, i'm completly against this whole method.
    Indeed, it's obvious, some students keep using cellphones in class even if it's forbidden, and Gilbert wants to allow them ? Come on,they're bannished for a good reason, it would mess up the class.
    I totally agree with Johanna, it's rather impossible to watch over each phone, it's just a waste of time. Futhermore, i'm sure, pupils'll do not use it properly in the way that teacher wants to.
    This method don't change anything but instead of keep chating on their phones under the table, they'll do on.

    I don't think Gilbert has thought about consequences : How about the dependence ? I mean, teenagers are already addicted to new technology and spend too much time on, it's not helping us. We must separate studies and private life ( including cellphones).
    How about the spelling ? How about to get a job ? We do not write our cover letter with text messages. We would end up in the sidewalk.

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